Mr.Magdy Martinez Soliman, International Parliamentary Expert, UNOPS

 

 

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Ms. Kendra Collins, Implementation Specialist of the UNDP/Parliament Project and Mr. Magdy Martinez Soliman, International Parliamentary Expert of the UNDP/Parliament Project.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Report of the Conference on Committee 
Systems

Panel 5

Committee Systems in the West

Presentation by Mr. Magdy Martinez Soliman

 

This is an IPS Conference, the first activity launched by the Institute for Parliamentary Studies. The Institute is a Public Institution created by the Jatiya Sangsad to provide services to the Members of the Bangladesh Parliament and, furthermore, to the Bangladeshi society .This Institute is intended to be the central core of research, training, documentation and technical support to the Members of Parliament, as well as the Secretariat Staff. As the Secretary of the Parliament Secretariat has explained in the Inauguration Ceremony, the IPS is being established in collaboration with a United Nations Development Project in the sector of Good Governance.  This Conference is the first of a range of activities of the project, which will be organised with the aim of strengthening parliamentary democracy.

One of the issues that have been considered as a priority of the UNDP/Bangladesh Parliament Project is to strengthen the Parliamentary Committee System. Therefore, we have begun a process of analysing, discussing, and searching for the possible weaknesses.   We have been questioning a number of interested persons in and outside the House. Many of you, especially the Committee Chairpersons, Members of the Treasury Bench and of the Opposition Parties, Women Members of the Parliament, Senior Officers of the Parliament Secretariat and experts from very different backgrounds like Academia, NGO and civil society, have been questioned by the staff members of the project on significant issues regarding the Committee System.  We have tried to ask you how you evaluate the current system and what improvements can be achieved in your opinion.

Your answers, this Conference, the discussions that we are having after each presentation, will provide us with both technical possibilities and juridical options for an eventual reform process. We will be drafting proposals to amend, where necessary, the Rules of Procedure of the Parliament, which regulate the Committees.  These will be forwarded to the Committee on Rules of Procedure for their consideration and further action.

Why Committees? I believe strongly that first, a Parliament without Committees is not a Parliament. It might be a Chamber of Representatives, a Legislative Assembly or a Power of the State, but it will not be a Parliament in the most modern and complete meaning of the word. And second, the more developed a Parliamentary Committee System is, the stronger a Parliament is. The question we are addressing today is clear: how can we develop and improve the Bangladesh Committee System? Which model, if any, should be followed and adapted to the needs of the Bangladesh House? Does an accurate and perfect Committee System exist in this world?

These are difficult questions that need sound answers. It is the responsibility of the Law Makers, the national political leaders, to discuss and agree on what is the better for the Parliamentary System. One fact is very clear.  There is no perfect Committee System in the world, as much as there is no perfect Parliament in the world. Perfect would mean non-perfectible, totally achieved and not subject to any change. As we see happening every year, all Parliaments, including the most admired for their accurate Rules and for their lasting stability and tradition, change their Rules, amend their Standing Orders, and even amend the Constitution, if needed. This means that all Parliaments feel the necessity of updating their regulations to meet the increasing requirements of the electorate and of the public opinion. Let us hope that it is effectively the demand of the public opinion, and not only of the published opinion, which leads Parliaments to change their Rules.

There are excellent Committee Systems in various Parliaments. The clearest evidence to prove that there is no superior model of Committee System is the fact that several Parliaments are highly efficient in their Committee Systems, yet having very different organisational structures: different Rules, different number, different powers, different roles.  But all have the same result of creating a specialized tool that serves the purpose of transparent scrutiny of the Government and experienced Law Making.  As there is no superior model, there is no pattern in one House that all other Parliaments try to imitate or to import. On the contrary, the reform process of the Committee Systems seems to be a race with very balanced runners in presence. As soon as one of them takes a small advantage, most of the others make the needed effort to join the one ahead. A series of parallel progresses have been the path over the two last decades: as soon as one Parliament has introduced a major change in its Committee system, and after waiting a prudential time to see if the new regulation is really effective, other Parliaments copy and paste this new improvement in their own Rules of Procedure. Even if not related to Committee System improvement, I would like to show in a few examples how this contagious amendment process crosses the borders of western States. In the late eighties, the Westminster tradition of the Prime Minister’s Question Time was a totally unknown proceeding to the South European Parliaments. It has nevertheless become a Rule in France, Italy and Spain. I do not believe anyone would consider now a return to a system where only Ministers could by directly questioned by Members on the Floor. The State of the Nation is an American tradition that brings the House of Representatives and the Senate together for a Presidential Statement before the Congress. The European Parliaments have not only copied the US tradition, but also adapted it to their own particular Rules. The Head of the Executive Power will certainly give his/her statement, but the Chief Whips will then have time to debate with him or her, and to propose Resolutions to be voted by the Floor.

What has become ever more certain is that a strong Committee System is basic for guaranteeing good democratic governance and good practices of accountability of the Government before the Parliament. I would like to come back to the roots for a better understanding of this last idea. As Abraham Lincoln in his famous sentence said, “Democracy means Government of the People, by the People and for the People”. This classic theory finds a juridical positive expression in Article 2 of the French Constitution, or in Article 7,1 of the Bangladesh Constitution: “All Powers in the Republic belong to the people, and their exercise on behalf of the people shall be effected only under and by the authority of this Constitution.”  

Let us go deeper into these two ways of expressing the same idea. Government of the people means an Executive Power established through a fair, pluralistic and transparent election of a legitimate Legislative Power. The Members of Parliament cannot be anything else than fairly elected representatives of the People. Government by the People means that these representatives have the capacity of making the Laws of the country that will be binding for all citizens and for the other Powers of the State. The Executive will have to enforce these Laws when making politics, and the Judiciary will have to apply these Laws when making justice. Government for the People means finally that the representatives, sitting in the Parliament, have the power to scrutinize the Cabinet. Parliament assures that the Government of the People runs the country for the People. The Government is therefore accountable before the House; the Cabinet is responsible before the Parliament.

These last ideas outline the two major constitutional functions of any Parliament: Law making, being the Legislative Power, Government oversight, being a Representative Power. To discharge both duties, Committees are essential. A Parliament with a weak or ineffective Committee System can neither participate seriously in the legislative process, being totally overwhelmed by the technical and political capacity of the Executive Power nor effectively control the Government. In other words, the strength of Committees is the strength of Parliament. A weak Committee System creates a situation in which Parliament is a place where Government, and only Government, has the Legislative initiative, and has an easy path for the passing of its Bills. Additionally, a weak Committee System makes Parliament a place where Government is not tied to explain and discuss its policies. Parliament has a loose control over Ministries and Public Corporations, and the ideas of the Government are not confronted by the alternative policies proposed by the opposition or the backbenchers of the Majority. 

If we look at the Houses in the West, we will see that, whatever their size may be (from 659 MPs in the House of Commons of the UK or the 577 Deputies in the French National Assembly to the 100 US or 76 Australian Senators), they all have a rather small number of Committees (between 20 and 30).  Belonging to at least one Committee, if not more, is mandatory for all Members of Parliament except the Prime Minister.

We are seeing more and more in the West the models of specialized Committees, where the stability of Membership is an asset (in the US, seniority is a highly appreciated and relevant concept). Committees enjoy highly professionalised technical and legal advice, as well as research input. The same Committee deals with both the oversight of Government in a certain area and with the draft Bills tabled by the Government in the same area. We are also seeing a model in which the House rules itself through a Committee or a set of Committees, usually very powerful and discrete. Business Committees, such as in the USA, deal with the sessions and agendas. In some Western Parliaments, including those in France, Germany, Spain and Italy, the House has a Board presided by the Speaker and composed of several Deputy Speakers and all Chief Whips.  These Boards assume the powers of the Business Committees.

Rules of Procedure Committees determine the Parliament’s internal regulations. House Budget and Administration Committees direct the Secretariat and arrange facilities for Members. And finally, Privileges Committees guarantee that Members enjoy their official powers and do not breach the Ethical Code of Conduct. The Superpowers of the Privileges Committees have been increased in the West. Except in cases of “red hands” criminal offences committed by a Member, no Parliamentarian can be tried, prosecuted or arrested without the permission of the Committee, its report before the House and the vote of the Floor. Accordingly, the responsibilities of such Committees are also larger in respect of controlling the Members’ conduct: registering their properties and interests, deciding cases of discipline, misbehavior, abuse of official facilities, non attendance of official duties, violation of secrecy or issuance of false statements.

The latest type of Committees being established in the West are the so-called Special Committees, Inquiry Committees or Fact-finding missions.  The Public is well informed about the activities of these Committees, as the media broadly reflects their spectacular proceedings. Latest regulations have found a balance for the setting up of this kind of Committees, so to make it not too easy for the opposition, nor too easy to prevent for the treasury bench. A limited duration, a clear mandate and no interference with the Judicial Power have been the ultimate requirements introduced by the Rules regulating these Committees.

The Committee Chairpersons in the western Parliaments are powerful MPs, especially in France, the USA and the UK. As there are few Committees, there are also few Chairs. In some cases, the Speaker selects Chairs, after formal or informal consultations with the Chief Whips. In most of the cases, the Committee Members among themselves elect the Chairpersons. Chairpersons are close collaborators of the Speakers, as they constitute the Chairmen’s Panel, give their advice and co-ordinate the Committees’ activities with the sittings of the House. Some space is usually allocated for the opposition in the Chairs, except in the US, where the majority of each House is reflected in all Chairpersons of the Committees. Other Parliaments, like the Spanish Congress, only give the Opposition the duty of chairing one or two relevant Committees, like Budget or Finance, plus any Inquiry Committee: a fact-finding mission chaired by the Treasury Bench would immediately be suspected of smooth handling by the Government, whose supposed irregularity has to be cleared by Parliament.

The Rules of Procedure of the above-mentioned Parliaments give also extraordinary powers to the Committee Chairs. This includes the power to oppose the set up of Select Committees, if the matter refers to their jurisdiction.  It includes the power to bring draft Bills from the Floor to the Committee, if it has been introduced directly before the House, or, bringing the Draft Bill directly to the whole House, if they agree there is an urgent need for its approval without in-depth discussions in their Committee. They have the right to speak whenever they wish in the House, being accorded the same privilege as Ministers. Committees have always the power of examining witnesses on oath, sending for persons, papers and records, summoning Ministers and other high officials of the Government and, in the case of the Privileges Committees, censoring public servants having disregarded the authority of MPs in the discharge of their official duties. Chairmen have finally, as has the Speaker over the whole House, disciplinary powers over the Committee Members, which go from warnings to cuts of their allowances or discharging them from the service of the Committee.

The Agenda of the Western Parliaments is, in its major part, decided by the Committees. Except in the case of legislative discussions on Bills, where Government has the initiative, Committees will decide which issues pass to the Floor, including which Private Bills, and which proposals require a larger forum for discussion than the Committee itself. The business arising from the Committees constitutes the large proportion of the sitting’s Order of the Day, leaving little space in the Parliament’s agenda for other business.

There has been a large debate on the type of sessions Committees should have, whether they should be secret or public. Almost all Parliaments in the West, with the exception of the French National Assembly, give the Committees the capacity to decide at each session if they will sit closed door or with public and media attendance. Broadcasting has been another recent issue, undoubted in the US, but still restricted in Europe. Broadcastings have to be approved by the Speaker, by the Business Committee or by a special Committee ad hoc. The Houses provide the television channels with a Manual of Editing, so to safeguard the prestige of the parliamentary institution, or release themselves an edited image according to this manual.

Committee Resolutions are, as a general rule, not binding for the majority of western Governments. This however does not mean that the Committee decisions are not respected. Governments are normally obliged to report to the Committee or to the House on the measures taken to enforce a resolution arising from any Committee.  And Governments will usually do so, to avoid the possibility of a stronger resolution arising from the Parliament as a whole, which would then have a binding capacity.

There is a political tension in all Committees of the West between the Chair and the Committee leader of the Opposition. This leader is the Shadow Minister of the subject of the Committee, as well as the Chairperson is an eventual substitute of the Minister in Charge, being probably the best specialist of this field after the Minister in the Ruling party.   

Some brief sentences can summarise the size of Committees’ powers in the West

Ø       No Bill without Committee

Ø       No Finance Act without hearing the contributions of all the sectoral Committees

Ø       All Government Officials but the Prime Minister are bound to attend Committee Sessions. This includes Comptroller and Auditor General and Managers of all Public Corporations.

Ø       All Executive Officials are accountable before the Committees

 

I am describing the Committee Systems of the richest, more powerful, longer lasting and more modern Parliaments of the world. The facilities that these Committees enjoy for the purpose of discharging their obligations are accordingly generous. The Committee System in the West is generally highly computerized, widely assisted and has a strong technical backing through research. Committee rooms are spacious.  The Committee calendar is agreed with the Speaker and published before the end of the year. Minutes of the meetings are available within 72 hours. Proceedings and reports are also made available on computer or on hard copies through a printing unit that works electronically, providing first verbatim and later condensed reports. The Committees are in most cases connected to the Parliament Library and to Universities. They finally maintain an updated roster of professionals who can eventually help the Committees with specialised technical knowledge.

I would like to insist on the fact that we are describing modern and stable Parliaments. One of the factors of stability and professionalism is that MPs are usually well paid in the west. I will not be shy or naïve in this aspect. There are sound reasons for this fact. And professionalism of Members has a lot to do with the functioning of a Parliament and of its Committees. The historic evolution of professional parliamentarism starts in the XIIIth Century, when the first British MPs where paid directly by their own constituents. Perhaps the local authorities expected that some taxes would be diminished through the proposals of their MP, or that some public works would be undertaken in the constituency, or that some measures would be taken by Parliament in their favour. The best way to ensure a full time activity was thought to be some ownership over their Member.

In the XVIIIth and XIXth Centuries, a seat in Westminster (and in other European Houses) became a lucrative source of wealth in form of sinecure offices and pensions. Middle-class citizens were prepared to pay large sums for their seats or sought the patronage of the magnates who had seats at their disposal. In 1901, the Osborne Judgement in the UK declared illegal the trade-union levy to pay for the support of all labour MPs. Under the subsequent pressure of Labour Members (who had lost their income source and were therefore in a very different position to attend Parliament compared to the rather rich Liberal and Conservative Members and than all the Lords), the intelligent liberal Chancellor of the Exchequer, Lloyd George, proposed in 1911 to pay all Members an allowance: “When we offer 400 Pounds Sterling a year, as payment of Members of Parliament it is not a recognition of the magnitude of the service, it is not a remuneration, it is not a recompense, it is not even a salary. It is just an allowance, and I think the minimum allowance, to enable men to come here, men who would render incalculable service to the State, and whom it is an incalculable loss not to have here, but who cannot be here because their means do not allow it. It is purely an allowance to enable us to open the door to great and honourable public service to these men, from whom this country will be all the richer, all the greater, and all the stronger for the unknown vicissitudes which it has to face by having there to aid us by their counsel, by their courage, and by their resource.”

Well paid MPs, modern session rooms, transport, communications, information technologies, research facilities, staff support, attention of the media, legal advice, all these are material improvements that have developed and strengthened the western Committee Systems in the last two decades. It was not done in two days, but neither did it need two centuries. This is undoubtedly one of the reasons for strong parliamentarism in the western political systems. Material improvements are as important towards this aim as are more accurate Rules of Procedure, relevant legal reforms or technical progress.

Our debates today should help us in formulating a better diagnostic of the challenges and in finding the best solutions, relevant to the context of the Bangladesh political system. Our effort consists in proposing impartially what we believe is the best. The decisions, as aforesaid, belong to the political leaders.

In the context of alleviation of poverty, improvement of good governance is an important tool and a strategic objective. Democracy can only be achieved through having a transparent and trustworthy political system. No institution can restore confidence in democracy better than the Parliament. Democracy and Development are the two sides of the same coin. Development outlines the need of material improvement of citizens’ living conditions, of reducing the gap between the better off in a society and the poor, the illiterate, the homeless, the marginalised and the persons living with disabilities. And also to reduce the gap between the countries who are better off and those who continue to face strong difficulties. Development seeks for social equality of persons within and across borders. Democracy stresses the importance of political equality, one man, one vote, to give all the opportunity to decide the better rule for their nation. No social development will be complete if people do not feel free. No Democracy will be strong enough if it does not solve efficiently the social problems.

It is for these reasons, the United Nations Development Programme, who I represent today, is increasingly twinning its more traditional and better-known co-operation projects in the technical field with new areas of project support, focusing under the umbrella of Good Governance. And we believe strongly that a key component of what we mean by good governance, is having strong, fair and representative Parliaments. Thank you very much for your attention.